As you probably know, I’m a big fan of Flickr and have used it for 11 years now as a way to organise and archive my best photos, easily insert them into blog posts here on 35hunter, and discover photographs that I love.
So whenever I can, I try to sing Flickr’s praises and encourage others to try it out – either for the first time, or as a return after time away.
My fellow photographer and blogger Jim Grey has also been highlighting Flickr’s benefits in recent times, with posts like Sustaining Flickr, which I’d encourage you to read if you haven’t already.
Earlier in the month I talked about three experiments I’m trying this year.
One of those was to explore online alternatives to Flickr, to find more photographers whose work I enjoy, and to talk to.
Whilst I’ve been doing this offline with photography books, online it’s gone nowhere fast.
Then I got to thinking about how I use Flickr to find and interact with others there, and realised I wasn’t putting much effort into it.
So why should I expect to be getting much in return?
So rather than explore other options, I’m changing my plan, and doubling down my efforts on Flickr.
Here are five ways how –
1. Linking photos to the Flickr original on 35hunter
I used to do this, then reverted to simply inserting an image in 35hunter post with no link behind it.
By returning to linking images to Flickr, it means when you click on the photo on 35hunter, it goes to to the original on Flickr, where you can see more details about it, view it full screen (just press L to enter Lightbox mode!) and more.
This deepens the connection between 35hunter and my Flickr profile, the two places I spend more photography related time online than anywhere else.
2. Linking to specific 35hunter posts in Flickr photo descriptions
Before I began this blog in December 2015 I essentially used Flickr as a photography blog.
I would post a photo (or a series of photos) and use the description box to talk about the camera I made them with or the approach I took, or something else related to the equipment and the experience of using it.
Or often I would post a picture of a camera then write about how I came across it, what I think of it and so on.
Click on the rather gorgeous Asahi Pentax S1a below to see an example.
I’ve done this occasionally since, perhaps as a way to have a kind of mini blog post that wasn’t long enough to justify a new post on 35hunter.
Click on the next photograph to see an example of this.
Doing this more often – giving a kind of summary perhaps of a longer post on 35hunter, then linking back to it – again gives more to those following on Flickr, and again enforces that link between my profile there and this blog.
3. Seeking out more photographers on Flickr
I’ve realised this falls into two categories, let’s call them active and archive.
Active photographers are those still regularly posting their work on Flickr. I follow them to ensure their latest work appears on my main Flickr page.
Here are those I follow at the time of writing.
I might also comment on specific photographs of theirs and/or add them to my Flickr favourites by clicking on the star beneath the photo, or if I’m on a computer (which I nearly always am when I use Flickr), I just press F, for Favourite.
Note, I believe this is a very different approach to clicking the “like” button on a blog post, which I ranted about somewhat recently.
Archive photographers I class as those who have a considerable and worthwhile archive of photos on Flickr, but perhaps don’t post any longer.
Given that Flickr was by far the dominant photo sharing site for some years from the mid 2000s onwards, it’s no surprise that there are still thousands of older photos worth seeking out.
I don’t generally follow any photographers who aren’t posting new photos, but will enjoy their past work and favourite and comment on any I particularly like.
This I see very much like looking through print photography books.
We tend to get sucked into the social media treadmill and believe that unless something has been made and shared just a few seconds ago – right here, right now – it has no value.
That yesterday’s news, photographs, ideas, or indeed cameras, are old hat, and now worthless.
But just because Ansel Adams is no longer with us, let alone making photographs, it doesn’t take away how much I’m enjoying the book of his I’m currently reading.
This is very similar for me to stumbling across the work of these dormant “archive photographers” on Flickr, whose work remains there to appreciate.
4. Adding more photos to my favourites
As I mentioned above, I only really follow a photographer if they’re still active and I love the majority of their work, so new photos of theirs appear in my main stream.
Searching older photos by subject or using tags or the Flickr camera finder means I still come across plenty of individual photographs I love enough to add to my collection of favourites.
My original intention with this was to have a kind of benchmark portfolio of how photographs could look, which in time hopefully my own photostream would get closer to in quality.
I’m still a way off, but the intention of using the faves feature remains the same.
5. Commenting more on Flickr
Some years back, the groups feature on Flickr was very useful, and you could join a group for any subject, camera type, photograph type and more, and interact with others specifically around that group’s topic.
The problem with groups (and this of course is not just true of Flickr) is that unless you have pretty tight moderation, they can get filled up with content that isn’t useful or relevant, a kind of spam in other words.
It’s not unusual to find a photo in a group for a certain model of camera, that’s been made by a completely different type of camera.
The person posting simply joined multiple (sometimes dozens, even hundreds) of groups and dumped their new photo in all of them, regardless of relevance, to try to gain more exposure.
Similarly with discussion threads within groups, if they weren’t closely monitored and tidied up, spam threads and replies would creep in and overwhelm the genuine threads and replies.
Fortunately, you can still find meaningful conversation within individual photo pages.
I recently found a photographer who uses similar old Pentax CCD DSLRs to me, and realised I’d actually had conversations with him years ago, and had some of his older photos amongst my favourites.
So when I find photographs I like – either recently uploaded or much older – I’m committing to commenting on them more, to engage in more conversation, to support more photographers.
These are five of the main ways I’m going to up my game on Flickr and better support both the platform overall, and the photographers using and enjoying it.
Some say its days are numbered, others believe a healthy future is ahead.
Whoever’s right, I’m keen to get the most from – and give the most to – Flickr while I can.
How about you? Do you use Flickr in any of these ways? Does this post encourage you to try one or two?
Please let us know in the comments below (and don’t forget to tick the “Notify me of new comments via email” box to follow the conversation).
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Following the instruction to “Click on the rather gorgeous Asahi Pentax S1a below to see an example” and the similar instruction following (“Click on the next photograph to see an example of this.”) gets me only the Flickr “Oops”; “403 – This is not the page you’re looking for”…
Thanks William, should be sorted now? I had the photos set to private not public.
I used to backlink my single frame posts from Flickr, but it was a pain and nobody clicked those links so I quit.
I’m still focusing my online photography-viewing time on Flickr now. After months of it I’ve come to wish that their iOS photo viewer were smoother and more feature rich. I wish for example that I could double-tap a photo to Favorite it, and I wish that the commentary on the photo wasn’t behind a couple taps.
Jim, on my iPad with the Flickr app I just have to tap the star on a photo to favourite it, then tap on the comments speech bubble to start to leave a comment. Or tap the i icon to see the info and description. One tap for each. I’m not sure it could be any simpler. Are you using via a browser not the dedicated Flickr app?
I find the star icon to be fiddly and hard to work. I frequently have to tap it a number of times before it takes. iOS 13 on iPhone 6s.
Ok. To be honest, I very rarely use Flickr on a phone, for one of the major reasons I don’t use Instagram at all – the screen size is just too small to appreciate photographs.
My iPad is great with the Flickr app and viewing images full screen, the images are almost exactly the same size as an 8×6 print. But I don’t use the iPad all that much either, I’m just not much of a fan of touchscreen devices, and find them a bit too fiddly to use for anything more than reading/viewing and simple navigation.
90% of the time I use Flickr with a 15in MacBook or Chromebook, and I could quite easily cope without ever using it in a phone or iPad. The larger screen and ability to type pretty accurately at a decent speed make the laptop hugely preferable for me. Perhaps I’m showing my age!
I’m with you. But it’s tricky to balance a laptop when you’re in the loo! So the phone it is.
Ha ha, I have absolutely no comment in response Jim! Oh except that a laptop is almost impossible to drop down the loo – a phone isn’t!
You’ve almost persuaded me that a flickr account should be on my to-do list. My reluctance to pulling that trigger are: a general suspicion about flickr’s terms-of-service agreement; an aversion to social media generally (no Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram for me!); and my all-analog workflow. But you’re pretty convincing!
Mark, what is it you distrust about Flickr’s terms or service? I don’t have anything personal on there (eg images of family) so even if there was something untoward, which I doubt, I don’t have any images I would care about losing, how ever that may manifest.
I’m completely with you on the social media aversion as you may have gathered! The ones you named I don’t use either and most of the time I’m online for connecting with others it’s WordPress, Flickr and email, that’s about it.
You could try a free account for a few months and see how you get on?
My TOS concerns are mostly generic: for-profit business giving away it’s product — there must be strings attached! I am not a lawyer, but lots of ’em in my family, so maybe I’m cynical and overly suspicious.
I perused flickr last night, and it looks like there are a few active film photographers. I’ll give it a go, and let you know how it comes out.
I think that’s probably a healthy outlook with most sites online, especially the likes of Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Amazon etc, the big players.
With Flickr, I may be naive, but I think their model is quite simple. Offer a free account which gives enough of the benefits to have an accurate experience of Flickr, but with some limitations, like 1000 photo upload limit and ads showing on some pages (which of course generates a bit of revenue to pay for the storage the free users need).
Then offer a paid for Pro option, which is a pretty straightforward subscription model. Flickr have a steady income from Pro subs, and the Pro subs have advantages like unlimited uploads, no ads on any of their pages, and so on.
I infinitely prefer subscription models to ad-based models, which I why I’m happy to pay Flickr and WordPress for their services. Ads are the scourge of the internet experience, for me, so I do all I can to avoid them – and keep my readers/viewers from being subjected to them.
I would be keen to know how you get on a few weeks down the line Mark.
Dan, thanks for the insight and encouragement. I’ll let you know what I discover.
Well, those are my theories! Look forward to hearing how you find Flickr for yourself.
At the beginning of the year I signed up for Flickr again for the heck of it simply in the hopes of finding a little circle of likeminded photography pals, I’m hoping to rekindle some of the spark I enjoyed years ago in the earliest days of Flickr (before Yahoo, even) when I was part of a close-knit group of friends on there. The larger milieu of the membership is so different(!) these days but I firmly believe there must be plenty others like us wandering in the wilderness looking for fire. I’d forgotten how wonderful it can be to see images together on the site, how nice it is to look at other peoples’ work in that way. Part of me wishes Flickr was still set up for the old-style sort of “front page” where longer text could clearly correspond to a handful of larger-sized images. But I guess that’s really what my journal on WordPress is for, so that’s not a huge complaint. I’m not overly optimistic SmugMug can revive Flickr to anything resembling its glory days considering the changed landscape of social media but I’ve got my fingers limply crossed they can get it somewhat self-sustaining. Sorry I’ve been so absent, Dan. Will you do me the pleasure of re-following my journal if you’re so inclined? Back in November or December I started a rebuild of my site that didn’t get far except for hasty tinkering on my part which disastrously purged some of my settings and I’m finally reaching back out to my small circle of acquaintances on WordPress. Hope this finds you well.
-Jason
Jason, great to hear from you.
Love this phrase – “I firmly believe there must be plenty others like us wandering in the wilderness looking for fire”. Yep, I absolutely agree, I’m one of them!
I still think Flickr is the best site for viewing photos, let alone organising and tagging one’s own.
I wondered what happened with your T Fir site, I haven’t had an new post update in ages. Glad to see you’ve relaunched, and yes of course, I’ve re-followed.
Glad to have you back.